{"id":891,"date":"2019-04-18T17:29:41","date_gmt":"2019-04-18T21:29:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.salticid.com\/bookblog\/?p=891"},"modified":"2024-05-26T12:15:34","modified_gmt":"2024-05-26T16:15:34","slug":"we-need-to-talk-about-kevin-lionel-shriver-2003","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.salticid.com\/bookblog\/2019\/04\/we-need-to-talk-about-kevin-lionel-shriver-2003\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>We Need to Talk About Kevin<\/i> &#8211; Lionel Shriver, 2003"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Read for the Far Out Film group in conjunction with the film&#8212;which was a tour-de-force in translating an unreliable narrator to a medium where I wouldn&#8217;t have thought that was possible. I enjoyed the writing very much but ultimately felt like the subject matter was ill-chosen\/misleading. And the narrator is so much like Shriver in her outrageousness, snark, judgementalness, and general willingness to be dislikable! I flagged a bunch of passages that I&#8217;m not quoting because they don&#8217;t stick outside of the context of the whole book. A little bit of hate-reading in a way, and this is one of the few books where I used downward-pointing flags (passages remarkable for how much I dislike them) as well as my usual upward-pointing (something I want to look up) and horizontal (passages I find delightful or interesting).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Short quotes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The ob-gyn &#8220;offered up <em>postnatal depression<\/em> like a present, as if simply being told that you are unhappy is supposed to cheer you up.&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&#8220;For Celia, her whole surround was animate, and each tapioca lump had a dense, nauseating little soul.&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&#8220;How vital, the hard glass interface of that [TV] screen. Viewers don\u2019t want those shows spilling willy-nilly into their homes, any more than they want other people\u2019s sewage to overflow from their toilets.&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&#8220;Myself, after having not <em>a<\/em> child but this particular one, I couldn\u2019t see how anyone could claim to <em>love children<\/em> in the generic any more that anyone could credibly claim to <em>love people<\/em> in a sufficiently sweeping sense as to embrace Pol Pot, Don Rickles, and an upstairs neighbor who does 2,000 jumping jacks at three in the morning.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Shriver was critiqued for making her protagonist Armenian; it did feel glued-on, especially in that the main way she indicates it is by name-checking various dishes: <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sarma_(food)\"><em>sarma<\/em><\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lahmacun\"><em>lahmajoon<\/em><\/a>, &#8220;sesame-topped <em>ziloogs<\/em>&#8221; (can&#8217;t figure out what this is?), <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gata_(food)\">katah<\/a><\/em>. The window-dressing aspect was confirmed for me when I looked up <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Madagh\"><em>madagh<\/em><\/a>, expecting to find a dish (the context is &#8220;an incident now mythic in my family involving <em>madagh<\/em> scraped off the ceiling with a broom&#8221;), but it&#8217;s a ritual event that includes various kinds of food.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Longer quotes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That coy expression \u201cyou\u2019re eating for two now, dear,\u201d is all by way of goading that your very dinner is no longer a private affair; indeed, as <em>the land of the free<\/em> has grown increasingly coercive, the inference seems to run that \u201cyou\u2019re eating for <em>us<\/em> now,\u201d for 200-some million meddlers, any one of whose prerogative it is to object should you ever be in the mood for a jelly donut and not a full meal with whole grains and leafy vegetables that covers all five major food groups. The right to boss pregnant women around was surely on its way into the Constitution.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was connected to the world by a multitude of threads, you by a few sturdy guide ropes. It was the same with patriotism: You loved the <em>idea<\/em> of the United States so much more powerfully than the country itself, and it was thanks to your embrace of the American aspiration that you could overlook the fact that your fellow Yankee parents were lining up overnight outside FAO Schwartz with thermoses of chowder to buy a limited release of Nintendo. In the particular dwells the tawdry. In the conceptual dwells the grand, the transcendent, the everlasting. Earthly countries and single malignant little boys can go to hell; the idea of countries and the idea of sons triumph for eternity.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The last thing we want to admit is that the forbidden fruit on which we have been gnawing since reaching the magic age of twenty-one is the same mealy Golden Delicious that we stuff into our children\u2019s lunch boxes. The last thing we want to admit is that the bickering of the playground perfectly presages the machinations of the boardroom, that our social hierarchies are merely an extension of who got picked first for the kickball team, and that grown-ups still get divided into bullies and fatties and crybabies.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The truth [about drugs]\u2014that we hadn\u2019t cleaned out the medicine cabinet, but we\u2019d both tried a variety of recreational drugs, and not only in the sixties but up to a year before he was born; that better living through chemistry had driven neither of us to an asylum or even to an emergency room; and that these gleeful carnival rides on the mental midway were far more the source of nostalgia than remorse\u2014was <em>unacceptable<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Read for the Far Out Film group in conjunction with the film&#8212;which was a tour-de-force in translating an unreliable narrator to a medium where I wouldn&#8217;t have thought that was possible. I enjoyed the writing very much but ultimately felt like the subject matter was ill-chosen\/misleading. 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